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Post by Drake on Apr 2, 2015 17:52:35 GMT -7
I know, Jordan, what you put in the chat box is how you feel about the site, but my experience begs to differ. This site needs activity! I want to see it succeed, but it won't without everyone trying their damndest to make this work. Jordan, that means you've got to be putting in twice the effort everyone else is. Time to step up and lead, bud.
All Star Marvel, now the most active of these sites, once was just a few inactive days away from dying. I can't tell you the number of times I thought it was over. This site has now had a couple of those stretches, most of which were well before the reboot, but things are slowly draining away again. I won't be able to commit as much to this site as I have to the others, but I'll work to make this site work if you all will.
I really, really want to see this site succeed, because I both want more DC titles to read and I helped create it (and told a number of my favorite stories on it) so it has a special place in my heart. Please, guys, don't be passive about this! Commit the time! All you need is 10 minutes a day for solely the site. That's not much. The writing can be a lot, sure, but I'm willing to bet those extra 10 minutes aren't. So c'mon! Make this work! Otherwise, there's really no point in you guys separating from UDC for creative differences (for lack of a better term).
I'm rooting for this site, just like I'm rooting for ASM and UDC. I believe you all can revive Infinite DC if you'll just put the proper time into it.
Thanks, Drake (one-time admin and co-creator of Infinite DC)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2015 8:48:48 GMT -7
I did try and start a few threads, but nothing really sprung up from them, or the conversation died away, and nobody put up any other conversation.
I used to check here every day, but I do it less and less. I'd really like to write here, not because of any creative differences with UDC, but, for whatever reason, I feel there is a really blank canvas here, and judging by Jordan's first issue on Batman, then it's a different canvas entirely.
From my point of view, conversation is as important as writing and commenting on it. We're a community in that we love comics, and we want to communicate and write about them. So, I say, do away with the chat box, and force people to post on the forum. That way...communication happens in the forum and not outside of it. Any communication is some communication and therefore...good.
I am a member of another forum where they had a chat box, and then killed it, because the conversation worked better without one.
From my own end, I think I have made a mistake with my title, and I have jumped ahead too far (which is kind of ironic considering that it is a time travel series...) I was hoping that I might be able to alter mine slightly and take on something that is more grounded in the same time period as the rest of the titles on the site. I am going to resubmit my claims for a slightly different title, but still tied to my over all plans.
I really want to write DC, and I really want to get in on the ground my, my one major issue, and this has always been the case is that I find it exceptionally difficult to start. My origin issues are always terrible, and I am impatient, so I don't want to submit something terrible.
So, there we are...my own culpability - but thank you, Drake, for calling us all out on our accountability to the side. We need to do this...and we should do it, properly.
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Post by Drake on Apr 3, 2015 17:04:05 GMT -7
For what it's worth, I think redoing the site's appearance would help a lot to draw in newer members. Honestly, IDC has always looked a little dark, gloomy and boring. UDC also has that problem. Then again, maybe it's just me. I do prefer lighter backgrounds and darker fonts.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2015 10:12:04 GMT -7
Oh, actually, I'd really agree with that. Although, isn't that something only you can change Drake, because you're an administrator?
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Post by Drake on Apr 4, 2015 11:11:00 GMT -7
I thought Jordan and SK were. If no one else can, I'll do it, but I'll need at least a month of leeway. I can't commit to doing it anytime soon.
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Post by jordan on Apr 5, 2015 21:47:36 GMT -7
I think communication is important. But stories are MORE important. So, if to start the site, communication doesn't take off right away, I personally won't be angry. I know it takes time to pick up. It does. Part of what I want this board to be, and a big reason I jumped from UDC, is that I want a member to do what they want. Preferably, I would want all members to write and review, but what if you only have time to write? Or review? Or neither? What if you just want to comment on some conversations? I want everyone to do what they not only want to do, but have the time to do. I would love to see communication flurish, and I will do my part, but my story willcome first and since I'm currently trying to sell my house, I have limited free time.
As for the background colors, I actually really like them. I did like the green and stuff more, but I like these too. And I wouldn't even know where to beging in changing all of it.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 12:06:16 GMT -7
So, hows everyone going, writing wise?
I'm getting there with Global Guardians. Hope to make more headway over the weekend, especially Friday, but I forgot what a great character Martian Manhunter is!
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Post by hitmonkey on May 18, 2015 21:51:38 GMT -7
I'm going to have to drop Detective, I've been working on it for so long and it just keeps not happening.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 12:28:30 GMT -7
OK Man, that's fair enough. I guess we're down to one!
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 12:43:34 GMT -7
Also, it's a bit bleeding quiet out there - anyone else about?
Any suggestions on how to make this place a bit more chirpy? We could always do our own version of Amalgam? Or alternatively, we could divvy up universes between us? Someone write Wildstorm, someone write Milestone, someone write !mpact, and we cross over with each other?
Any thoughts? Feelings?
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Post by Drake on May 23, 2015 9:56:41 GMT -7
PMd you on UDC. As for potential ideas, if you want to gather a group of writers and compete with UDC--which, frankly if you're part of another site, you do--then you'll have to stand out. Simply reimagining characters won't be enough. UDC has that in droves, and it has an established few writers, an admin core, and continuity, which has ultimately (no pun intended) proven to be its most appealing characteristic.
I really like the idea you're presenting of different writers taking different universes, or at the very least different lines and groups of characters. It definitely differentiates this--or any site--from UDC. However, I'd recommend that you add more. I'd say definitely be open to some creativity from writers. Maybe one gets to take the JL from the start. Maybe they're restricted on the characters they can use, but they're allowed a number of iconic heroes. Maybe writers can take on different universes (something akin to Earth Two). Maybe you completely reinvent the claiming system (not sure what you'd do, but it could help).
To summarize, if you want a DC site to exist and compete with UDC, you've got to make it unique.
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Post by roosterhardwood on May 26, 2015 11:17:25 GMT -7
What about a site that combines just Marvel and DC?
UDC and ASM and here are all restricted to one universe, which makes them a fair bit too similar sometimes. It feels a lot like here, it's just "someone is already writing UDC's Superman, why don't I just come here instead?" We've seen Batman fight Joker like a hundred times, what about Batman vs Mandarin, or Lex Luthor vs Norman Osborn?
There could be a rule that you can claim a hero and only a set number of their villains, and then you have to claim them from the other universe.
There are probably details that need to be worked out, like if someone wants to write Captain America but the Wonder Woman writer has already claimed Red Skull, but I think it could be much more of its own thing than the three current boards and their "write the heroes you know against the villains they fight every month anyway".
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Post by Drake on May 26, 2015 15:11:06 GMT -7
What about a site that combines just Marvel and DC? UDC and ASM and here are all restricted to one universe, which makes them a fair bit too similar sometimes. It feels a lot like here, it's just "someone is already writing UDC's Superman, why don't I just come here instead?" We've seen Batman fight Joker like a hundred times, what about Batman vs Mandarin, or Lex Luthor vs Norman Osborn? There could be a rule that you can claim a hero and only a set number of their villains, and then you have to claim them from the other universe. There are probably details that need to be worked out, like if someone wants to write Captain America but the Wonder Woman writer has already claimed Red Skull, but I think it could be much more of its own thing than the three current boards and their "write the heroes you know against the villains they fight every month anyway". That's not a bad idea, but the problem with that is that most people join the sites specifically to write their favorite heroes and villains. Also, to be fair, you can tell new stories with the same characters. It's what comics have done for decades. EDIT: Plus, most of the villains are tied so intrinsically to a character and their psyche that it would be odd and/or unnatural for them to be fighting someone else entirely. I will admit that a solid writer could make nearly any villain work with any hero, but there would still be some that would be impossible to match up. Red Skull and Wonder Woman, for example, would work, but Lex Luthor and Spider-Man wouldn't as Luthor's whole personality and villainy is defined by an inferiority complex so deeply ingrained into him that he went mad when someone "greater" than him appeared. Spider-Man wouldn't cut it. He's not super enough.
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Post by roosterhardwood on May 26, 2015 17:31:17 GMT -7
Eh, I'd argue that one could write a Lex Luthor/Spider-Man story, it would just be more difficult. Personally, I think he'd be a great X-Men villain though.
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Post by Drake on May 26, 2015 20:07:30 GMT -7
That's not a bad idea at all.
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Post by hitmonkey on Mar 28, 2016 21:58:35 GMT -7
So would it be safe to say this place is dead?
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